Showing posts with label kirk west. Show all posts
Showing posts with label kirk west. Show all posts

Thursday, October 09, 2008

Lois Brown is just Not Worth the Risk!

I first began blogging about Lois Brown in February 2007 as Lois contested Kirk West for the Conservative party nomination for the federal riding of Newmarket/Aurora. Originally my impetus for blogging was that, in my opinion, Kirk West represented a young man who was chock full of great and very innovative ideas on how to serve riding constituents and as such was light years ahead of anything that Lois offered. His campaign slogan of "Not The Same Old Same Old" said it all! On the other hand, it was readily apparent, even to the casual observer, that Lois Brown was devoid of any original or innovative ideas. Lois' concept of an original thought was the robotic repetition of the Conservative mantra of the day. Quite okay if you're sucking up to leadership, but not nearly enough to break down the walls of a traditional and historic Liberal stronghold.

As the nomination race "heated-up" a number of bloggers began leaving comments in response to my posts alleging various improprieties and possible wrongdoings by Lois, all of which were corroborated, and then published on my blog. It is very important to stress that not once did Lois Brown challenge or respond in any way to these very serious allegations.

Rather than turning this into a very lengthy post, I would urge you to visit my archives starting with my first Lois Brown on Feb 10/07. Here are a few highlights;

  • a comment was left by a blogger accusing Lois and the former Alliance party riding association of improprieties and possible wrong-doings in the actual voting process during the vote which nominated Lois as the Alliance candidate. As well the final vote count was never announced nor has it ever been made public. Lois has never responded nor commented on this allegation.
  • during her 2007 nomination campaign, Lois' old web site stated that she was endorsed by Frank Klees. One blogger posted that Frank Klees was not endorsing either Lois or Kirk. Another blogger challenged Lois to produce evidence of Frank Klee's endorsement which she never did. A third blogger stated that Frank Klees had fired Lois while she was working for him. Lois has never responded nor commented on the supposed endorsement.
  • allegations surfaced in her 2007 nomination campaign that Lois was given preferential access to the Conservative party riding membership list by the executive of the riding association supposedly to "renew lapsed memberships." Kirk West was never asked to help in resigning lapsed members at that time. Lois had the membership list for at least 5 months prior to the nomination vote, making trips to Ottawa to deliver signed members, while Kirk received his copy with just weeks left before the vote. Lois has never responded to this allegation, nor has the executive of the riding association.
  • on the night of the nomination vote Lois Brown's people felt it ethical to plaster all four walls of the auditorium with her campaign material, in addition to covering the backrests of every single chair. It was only after Kirk West arrived and initially was unable to display his material, that someone instructed Lois' people that they were only entitled to use 2 walls only. The bottom line was that enough space was cleared for Kirk to display one sign and leave a synopsis of his vision for the riding on most of the chairs.
  • On the night of the nomination vote, Stephen Somerville then the president of the riding association, in his opening remarks openly endorsed Lois from the podium prior to the candidates speeches and before the vote. Two Questions .... is this legal and ethical? Secondly .... why Stephen?

Personally, the most interesting aspect of this entire fiasco is that somewhere along the way, some nitwit or a collection of nitwits within the Lois Brown campaign ... maybe Lois Brown herself apparently began to feel uncomfortable with my blogs .... and suddenly the accusation was made that I ...Robert Otto was not Robert Otto at all. These matrons of the logically challenged suddenly deduced that Robert Otto was Kirk West.

They had arrived at their conclusion because, after scrutinizing the membership list(s), and telephone directories they were unable to find a listing for Robert Otto. Obviously it had never occurred to them that I might not be a registered member of the Conservative party (which I'm not) or that I could have an unlisted telephone.

Rather than Lois Brown confronting me directly to challenge and repudiate my allegations Lois' people began to send me juvenile emails asking .... "that I reveal myself because I could be easily working for Belinda Stronach" ... that "I'm hiding in the shadows and suffering from a small man complex" ... and that "I should expose myself otherwise everything on my blog may as well be an urban legend" ... URBAN LEGEND ....oooooooh .......I like that!

It is also my understanding from several sources that apparently sometime after Lois Brown defeated Kirk West she asked for a meeting with Kirk to discuss the Robert Otto blogs. She was still firmly convinced that Kirk was me. Apparently Lois and a number of her disciples grilled Kirk at a coffee shop...... HATS OFF TO KIRK FOR EVEN ATTENDING THAT MEETING. PERSONALLY I WOULD HAVE TOLD LOIS TO TAKE A FLYING FADOO. But that's just me ...I'm plain Cantankerous.

I also understand that Kirk has now been in effect blackballed from the party by Lois Brown.

LOIS ........ENOUGH IS FINALLY ENOUGH !!!!!!!!!!

I will not stand by any longer as you run rough-shod over other people with your Gestapo-like tactics. Kirk West has never done one single solitary thing to harm you. As a matter of fact he even went so far as to step aside when you asked him to so that you could lose to Belinda Stronach in the last election. Did he also not campaign for you????? You should be ashamed of yourself if only you knew how.

You have impugned the integrity and reputation of a fine young man. Kirk deserves a public apology from you and from all of the others who participated in defaming him.

LOIS I challenge you to meet me ..... Robert Otto ...Not KIRK WEST. We will meet in the same coffee shop and you can bring as many people as you wish. I will bring two members of the press because quite frankly I can't trust you to tell the truth after the meeting is over. I will answer all of your questions and you will answer all of my allegations. Once were done you can make the trip to Kirk West's house and apologize.

LOIS .... MY NAME IS ROBERT OTTO ..... AND YOU'RE 15 SECONDS OF FAME ARE UP!!!!

Just email me with your contact information and I will be there.

Thursday, March 01, 2007

Memo to: Dianne

On February 21/07 you made the statement that "Frank Klees always endorses Lois."

Blogger Val Zans then challenged you to "show one reference on the web, in print, or anywhere where Frank Klees endorses Lois Brown."

Now I don't want to be pushy, but it's been a while now, but there's still no proof of your claim. If Frank's always endorsing Lois there should be no problem ...should be a veritable plethora of material.

Hold it ... I just went on to Lois' website....www.loisbrown.ca...that's hers right? My oh my she's added a web page that wasn't there a few days ago. Boy now I'm really confused. There are only 6 supporters...let's see...an M.P. from Barie, looks like 1 aquaintance or neighbour, 1 Newmarket Aurora riding association member...2 high school students and 1 university student. Doesn't seem like an awful for a woman who has been in politics all of these years ...... but NO FRANK KLEES! Mmmmm I guess the internet must be a little slow.

Dianne, What am I going to do wth you?

My fellow blogospherians, I just received this comment from Dianne (I've posted it in the comments section). It's so lame that I just had to share it with you!

Dianne said....
"anonymous makes a good point though Mr. Otto. We have no way of knowing who we are actually talking to so you could easily be from the Belindah camp, or you could be Mr. West. I on the other hand am upfront with who I am. Click on my name and email me Mr. Otto and expose yourself otherwise everything on this blog may as well be an urban legend."

The Cantankerous one says.....

  • as Strother Martin said to Paul Newman in Cool Hand Luke ..."what we got here is a failure to communicate". I'll go real slow m'am ... I--Am--Robert Otto! Quite frankly it's not my problem if you don't know who I am. Seems as though you folks in the Lois Brown camp have been spending a lot of time trying to find out ...why is that Dianne? Has the Cantankerous one been hitting a little too close to home?
  • what's more important ... that you know where Robert Otto is (that's what you folks really want to know isn't it) or the exchange of opinions?
  • if I'm so off the mark, Lois Brown has had plenty of time to respond to me directly, instead of cowering behind your skirt. Where's Lois...where's Lois...where's Lois (sorry I got carried away with that chant)
  • Is Lois Brown really all that shook up that she can't have a tete-a-tete avec moi?
  • do you have a last name, or is Dianne a nom de plume? Just going back to the comment which you made about identifying yourself.
  • oh my ... an urban legend already after only 7 short blogs. Where will I be after 14?
  • if you had bothered to read any of my archived blogs, instead of getting yourself all worked up about me "exposing myself" you would have actually read some uncomplimentary comments about B.S. (Belinduh). To suggest that I may be actually in Belinduh's camp is a very astute observation on your part.
  • could I be Mr. West? ... don't overestimate the powers of your perception.
  • as far as Emailing you....guess what Dianne...I'm glad you asked. I actually tried to expose myself but you just weren't looking. I clicked your name on one of your Emails on 19Feb2007 20:16:41-000. Your message to me was "Thank-you Robert I do see your point and it would be a good idea to have a debate." "I'll see what I can do about organizing one." "Thank you for your help in this matter."
  • I responded via Email by clicking on your name. My message to you was "That's fabulous Dianne. Looking forward to getting these two together for the benefit of the riding. By the way, I wonder if you would be kind enough to resubmit your last two comments so that I may publish them. My computer was acting up. I've remedied the problem...I fed the mice."

Here's what came back to me on 19Feb2007 20:16:41-000 from Mailer DAEMON.... "Hi, this is the qmail-send program at yahoo.com. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses."

"This is a permamnent error." "" recipient address rejected: Access denied."

Que sera sera

Saturday, February 24, 2007

One of Lois Brown's purported Supporters is 3 Fries Short of a Happy Meal!

On Feb 16/07, I posted a comment on www.kirkwest.blogspot.com in response to a series of posts by someone who purportedly is a Lois Brown supporter. Lois and at least one of her supporters (if that's what he or she really is) sure do make strange bedfellows! Thought you might enjoy it.

Anonymous said.....
"Let's try to avoid slinging a bit of mud in the nomination campaign, shall we.
posted to Kirk's Blog 2/13/2007 "Our little Mosque in Newmarket."

Robert Otto said......
Anonymous said ... let's try to avoid slinging a bit of mud in the nomination race, shall we?"

Curious, I have read all of Kirk's Blogs pertaining to Lois Brown's ONCE AGAIN Conservative nomination bid for Newmarket/Aurora (it's becoming as predictable as ground hog day) ... and I can't seem to find any mud which has been flung. Perhaps you could show us a scoop or two so that we would know what it looks like.

As a matter of fact, the only mud which I find is caked to your own slingshot. Here are excerpts from your recent comment posts to Kirk's Blog;

  1. "Lois Brown failed to bring her spine with her last night, and consequently lost a lot of repect from her core supporters." posted 2/11/2007
  2. "Lois is quite a force to be reckoned with, at least among Conservatives." posted 2/12/2007
  3. "I can agree with most of her views, but she succumbs to political correctness and tries to steer clear of controversy. Unfortunately this behaviour would probably make her a very ineffective M.P. posted 2/12/2007
  4. "People are tired of career politicians. They want someone with character that will stand up when it's time to take a stand. For now the best choice is still Lois. posted 2/12/2007

So let me understand you ... Lois has lost her spine before ... which cost her a lot of respect ... but she's still a force to be reckoned with among Conservatives ... although she succumbs to political correctness and tries to steer clear of controversy ... which will probably make her an ineffective M.P. ... but since people want someone with character that will stand-up when it's time to take a stand ... Lois, despite having no spine, a focus on political correctness and wanting to avoid controversy, for now is the best choice. Did I get that right?

Anonymous ... with looney Liberal logic like that .... are you in fact Belinduh Stronach?

Addendum: Anonymous may not be a supporter at all!